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What’s with the some feminists and the “don’t hold the door open for me or be chivalrous” thing? (I’m definitely aware NOT all feminists do this, but a conversation on my dash brought the topic to mind) I mean, I understand that you don’t like being treated differently solely because you have a…

I know very few, if any, women who will refuse to have a door held for them. I can not remember the last time I saw this magical woman who goes about refusing to have doors held for her all about the world. I see a damned lot of the opposite of this, actually, people not paying attention when I have my arms full, or when my friend has her stroller with two kids in it and people can’t be arsed to open a door. Or when I am having a high pain day and using my cane and people ignore that too.

It doesn’t personally bother me at all, unless I am holding a door open and some dude happens along and refuses. THIS is actually something I do see, almost every day that I am out and about. I’ll hold the door that I am going in or out of anyhow, and dude will stop, stock still, and insist that I go first. I have actually had men get grumpy with me over the fact that I won’t go first. I have been called a bitch and a feminazi over this little tiny gesture.

The problem is that it stems from Chivalry, which, sure, sounds neat and respectful on the surface, but is rooted in the idea that women were fragile and delicate and needed to be protected, so they were treated like fragile property, instead of equal individuals.

So, I guess… excuse me if I don’t get over this one thing?

I have NEVER seen this hypothetical feminist who yells at men for holding the door open for her. Ever. But I have had my share of guys who will stop when I hold open the door, even though I have taken a step behind it to hold it open, and therefore it makes no sense for me to step around and enter and he has to swing open the door himself again and he is wasting precious fucking time waiting for me to go inside first. It’s kind of aggravating. I wonder if it’s a regional thing, though.

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I routinely punch any guy who tries to be nice to me for any reason, and I generally take the opportunity to get the boot in while he’s down, just for spite, because that’s totally what feminism is, honest, no fooling.

Also, I demand all women get abortions even when they’re not pregnant and I insist the government pays for it AND gives the woman a medal. Plus, it would be great if all jobs were given to unqualified women. We demand quotas! We LOVE quotas!

Also, that first post is utter bullshit.

I don’t want men holding open doors for women.

I want people holding open doors for people, because feminism is about being decent to each other no matter what your gender identity is. I don’t want to be treated as some special fucking snowflake just because I was born with a certain set of chromosomes. I want to be treated as a special snowflake by people who like me for who I am, and I will treat them in kind, no matter what their plumbing looks like.

Sure, but have you ever seen the hypothetical feminist in the original post?

I have, sadly, actually seen this hypothetical “feminist” in action, several times. Both on the internet and irl and she always confounds me (for the record it was more than one person). However, like most extremists she is a very vocal, yet VERY small minority inside of the movement that the other side likes to wheel out in order to make the movement seem “off the rails”.

  1. crocodileblackpelvis reblogged this from doctordisaster
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  4. thegreenwolf reblogged this from jhameia and added:
    If someone—male, female, or otherwise—holds a door open for me, great! If there’s a second door that I get to first,...
  5. madameatomicbomb reblogged this from utopiangem and added:
    I hold open doors for people all of the time, no matter what gender. If someone is right behind me, I’ll automatically...
  6. melancholywise reblogged this from gailsimone and added:
    Who are these guys that won’t go through a door held open by a woman?! I hold doors for people all the time and this has...
  7. t-akver reblogged this from jhameia and added:
    If a given woman is uncomfortable with a given guy holding a door open for her it is probably because he has already...
  8. makiruz reblogged this from gailsimone and added:
    A couple of guys in this page claim that they have met the “Magical Woman”, so it’s not so Mythical after all.
  9. deadend reblogged this from gailsimone and added:
    If a guy is holding a door open because someone else is a woman, they are being kind of a dick. If a person is holding...
  10. invisiblemoose reblogged this from gailsimone and added:
    I hold the door open for, well, anyone. Most people say thanks to me, and I say thanks to anyone who does the same to...
  11. candyelephants reblogged this from gailsimone and added:
    OK YES SERIOUSLY. I agree with all this. It’s nice when people open the door for you, male or female. It is annoying...
  12. deducecanoe reblogged this from gailsimone and added:
    I, um, hold the door for whoever’s behind me. Male or female. And not cos I think they’re weaker, or whatever. Cos, it’s...
  13. geekeryandhockey reblogged this from gailsimone and added:
    I have, sadly, actually seen this hypothetical “feminist” in action, several times. Both on the internet and irl and she...
  14. kijutsushi reblogged this from darnaguen and added:
    “I pay your food, you’ll let me bed you” is definitely problematic. I don’t think there’s something inherently wrong...
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  16. darnaguen reblogged this from kijutsushi and added:
    I generally tend to hold the door open to anyone, regardless of their gender. But especially for older people. Does that...
  17. naegitime reblogged this from ebbywaffle and added:
    Yeah…I don’t give a fuck if you wanna hold the door open for me, that’s cool. I just don’t want anyone holding it open...
  18. ebbywaffle reblogged this from ragnell and added:
    Bolded for the real answer. And no, I have not met that feminist. Oh I’m sure there is someone out there like that, but...
  19. cavefatuam reblogged this from ouyangdan and added:
    For the record, Boy opens my door and pulls out my chair. I routinely do have other women get pissy with me about this,...
  20. teen---idle reblogged this from gailsimone and added:
    No I haven’t, but that wasn’t what I meant with my post :) I agree with all the posters who have never seen the...
  21. doctordisaster reblogged this from gailsimone
  22. yanbasque reblogged this from ragnell and added:
    [Sorry, I edited a lot of those comments out, just to minimize the text in my post. Good commentary, though, so check...
  23. jethroq reblogged this from gailsimone and added:
    Ok, taken out of context, but hilarious quote.
  24. ouyangdan reblogged this from kakapokitty and added:
    Yeah, I hadn’t meant for this to be a pile up on Insanitycoil, whom I do not know in RL. I was trying to politely...
  25. timholtorf reblogged this from gailsimone and added:
    I just hold doors open for everyone. Especially if they happen to be carrying something. It’s polite, and I’ll do it for...
  26. ragnell reblogged this from gailsimone and added:
    No one has. She is like a unicorn. Only rather than being limited to virgins she only approaches guys who want to...
  27. kakapokitty reblogged this from gailsimone and added:
    OP is 17, a dense 17 for sure, but it’s entirely possible he’s never met a grown-assed woman.
  28. gailsimone reblogged this from teen---idle and added:
    Sure, but have you ever seen the hypothetical feminist in the original post?
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  30. jhameia reblogged this from ouyangdan and added:
    I have NEVER seen this hypothetical feminist who yells at men for holding the door open for her. Ever. But I have had my...
  31. captainwolfos said: Eh, I don’t get it either. If someone’s going through a door when I happen to be near it, I will hold it open, regardless of what said person has or has not got swinging around in their shorts. It’s just common courtesy. Isn’t it?